Monday, October 23, 2023

Abraham and his two sons, Ishmael and Isaac. Implications for future relations and Land.

This is a long Read, but it's really informative from a scriptural standpoint, about the division in the Middle East.

Forgive the crazy font--some of it is deliberate and other places aren't.  Blogspot just messes with things where there's copying and pasting of different scriptures and quotes.

**I want to preface everything with Jesus' statement:  "By their fruits ye shall know them."  
I don't believe that everyone in one group is all bad, and that everyone in the other group is all good, but you can tell what the general culture is about by looking at their nature. **

First of all, at some point after Noah's flood, the land in the Middle East and outward, was divided up by covenant, according to the Book of Jubilees.  The descendants of Ham (from whom the civilization of Egypt sprang) broke the covenant and essentially, claim jumped into Shem's territory.  The lineage of Shem produced Abraham and Isaac.   Ishmael was a blended lineage of Shem and Ham.  Ham in Hebrew, means hot.   Don't forget that!  Ham's descendants were given the land that was hotter.  This was because he married Egyptus from the "cursed" lineage of Cain (the one who killed Abel).  

The land that Cain's descendants were prophesied to dwell in, which they got by drawing a Lot, would be cursed.  It was cursed due to bad behavior.  A cursed land that is extra hot, well, it's harder to grow food and tend to animals.  All that hot and struggle I think, can cause people to be contentious, especially when there's an ancient family feud involved.

FYI Egypt in the Old Testament was sometimes called Mizraim.  The land of Cush was below Egypt.








In order to understand the covenant of the land, Abraham's story needs to be told.

Genesis 15.  In the early part of that chapter, Abram was told that he would have a child from his own body.  He was also given the land covenant:
Verses-

13 And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a astranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall bafflict them four hundred years;

14 And also that nation, whom they shall serve {Egypt}, will I judge: and afterward shall they acome out with great bsubstance.

15 And thou shalt go to thy fathers in peace; thou shalt be buried in a good aold age.

16 But in the afourth generation they shall come bhither {here} again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet cfull.  {The Amorites would be swept off the land for deep wickedness}.

17 And it came to pass, that, when the sun went down, and it was dark, behold a smoking furnace, and a burning lamp that apassed between those pieces.

18 In the same day the Lord made a acovenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this bland, from cthe river of Egypt {Nile} unto the great river, the river dEuphrates:

19 The Kenites, and the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites,

20 And the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Rephaims,

21 And the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Girgashites, and the Jebusites.    {Are those the people that were too wicked to keep their land?  Genesis 10 lists some of those people as being descended from Canaan/ who was descended from Ham}.  {Remember that the matriarch Rebekah in the book of Genesis, later complained about the behavior of the women of Heth/ Canaanite women whom Esau had married - Genesis 26:34, 35; Genesis 27:46.  Topical Guide note says, interfaith marriage.  Genesis 28:8-9 Esau later married an Ishmaelite}.

Then comes the next chapter:

Genesis 16.  Call it ironic, but in chapter 15 Abram was told that Egypt was a strange land and not part of the covenantal land for his numerous descendants, and they would be slaves there, yet in chapter 16, due to desperation for a child, at his wife's urging, he took his wife's Egyptian servant Hagar, as wife #2.

Now Sarai Abram’s wife bare him no children: and she had an handmaid, an aEgyptian, whose name was bHagar.

And Sarai said unto Abram, Behold now, the Lord hath restrained me from bearing: I pray thee, go in unto my amaid; it may be that I may obtain children by her. And Abram hearkened to the voice of Sarai.

And Sarai Abram’s wife took Hagar her maid the Egyptian, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and gave her to her husband Abram to be his wife.

¶ And he went in unto Hagar, and she conceived: and when she saw that she had conceived, her mistress was despised in her eyes.

And Sarai said unto Abram, My wrong be upon thee: I have given my maid into thy bosom; and when she saw that she had conceived, I was adespised in her eyes: the Lord judge between me and thee.

Strongs concordance #H7043 for the Hebrew word for despise (kalal) is that Hagar mocked, made light of (made Sarai the butt of her jokes), brought into contempt, cursed, despised, esteemed her to be of lower worth.   Sarai, in verse 6 "dealt hardly with" Hagar (Abram said it was her decision), per Strong's word #H6031 anah, humbled Hagar.  Possibly Sarai reminded Hagar of her status as a servant and that Hagar had abused her blessing of becoming a wife and future mother.

Genesis 16: 9  And the aangel of the Lord said unto her, Return to thy mistress, and bsubmit thyself under her hands.   {The word "submit" is the same, anah (Strongs #H6031).  So the angel told Hagar to return, and humble herself to Sarai's hand.  

You can also read the account in the Book of Jasher (an extra-biblical book):   Book of Jasher, Chapter 16 (sacred-texts.com) (start with verse 23)

The angel also proceeded to tell her that her (also numerous) descendants would be a wild, contending and violent people, living near the people of his brothers.   Hagar's son Ishmael was born when Abraham was 86 years old.  At 99, Abraham, after he, Ishmael and his male household were circumcised, Abram was told by heavenly message, that he would still have a child through Sarai, and that this child would be the one with the Eternal Covenant (b'rit olam).  See Genesis 17.   See also the Book of Jubilees:  Book of Jubilees: The Book of Jubilees: Abraham at Beersheba. Birth and Circumcision of Isaac. Institution of the Feast of Tabernacles (xvi. 10-31) (sacred-texts.com)


(Fast forward, Abram/Abraham later had Isaac via Sarai/Sarah, and then 6 sons with wife #3, Keturah (he married Keturah after 1. divorcing Hagar and 2. becoming a widow from Sarai/Sarah).  After all my copying an pasting scriptures and references, I am not sure which in all these I read that all the sons of Abraham, excepting Isaac, would be considered Gentiles.

Why did he divorce Hagar? 

Genesis 21:

And the child grew, and was weaned: and Abraham made a great feast the same day that Isaac was weaned.  {which was likely between 3 - 4 years old}.

¶ And Sarah saw the son of aHagar the Egyptian, which she had bborn unto Abraham, cmocking(m'Tsah-khak, laughing out loud in merriment or scorn, making sport out of someone:  Strongs Concordance word study #H6711)

10 Wherefore she said unto Abraham, aCast out this bondwoman and her son: for the son of this bondwoman shall not be bheir with my son, even with Isaac.

11 And the thing was very grievous in Abraham’s sight because of his ason.

12 ¶ And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in aIsaac shall thy bseed be called.

13 And also of the son of the bondwoman will I make a anation, because he is thy seed.

14 And Abraham rose up early in the morning, and took bread, and a bottle of water, and gave it unto Hagar, putting it on her shoulder, and the child, and asent her away: and she departed, and wandered in the wilderness of bBeer-sheba.

Read  Book of Jasher, Chapter 21 (sacred-texts.com)

13 And when Isaac was five years old, he was sitting with Ishmael {who would've been about 18} at the door of the tent.

14 And Ishmael came to Isaac and seated himself opposite to him, and he took the bow and drew it and put the arrow in it, and intended to slay Isaac.

15 And Sarah saw the act which Ishmael desired to do to her son Isaac, and it grieved her exceedingly on account of her son, and she sent for Abraham, and said to him, Cast out this bondwoman and her son, for her son shall not be heir with my son, for thus did he seek to do unto him this day.

16 And Abraham hearkened to the voice of Sarah, and he rose up early in the morning, and he took twelve loaves and a bottle of water which he gave to Hagar, and sent her away with her son, and Hagar went with her son to the wilderness, and they dwelt in the wilderness of Paran with the inhabitants of the wilderness, and Ishmael was an archer, and he dwelt in the wilderness a long time.

(Side notes:  For your information, Hagar left with a bunch of bread and water, not a little bottle of water, but likely a pot of water.  Later on Abraham sent support.  After Abraham died, Ishmael came to mourn him).  Book of Jasher 21:17-48;  It appears that relations between Isaac and Ishmael improved after Sarah, and later on, Abraham were deceased.   Genesis 25: 5-11   ¶ And aAbraham bgave all that he had unto Isaac.

But unto the sons of the aconcubines, which Abraham had, Abraham gave gifts, and bsent them away from Isaac his son, while he yet lived, eastward, unto the ceast country.

And these are the adays of the years of bAbraham’s life which he lived, an hundred threescore and fifteen years. (175)

Then Abraham gave up the ghost, and died in a good aold age, an old man, and full of years; and was bgathered to his people.

And his sons Isaac and Ishmael aburied him in the cave of bMachpelah, in the field of Ephron the son of Zohar the Hittite, which is before Mamre;

10 The field which Abraham apurchased of the sons of Heth: there was Abraham bburied, and Sarah his wife.

11 ¶ And it came to pass after the death of Abraham, that God blessed his son Isaac; and Isaac dwelt by the awell Lahai-roi.   See Gen. 16:14  I think that's the same place that Hagar first ran away to, from Sarai.     Genesis 25 goes on to list the genealogy of the descendants of Ishmael.

Assuming that this story is also correct, some time may have passed between the two incidents of the weaning party (and Ishmael mocking little Isaac), and Ishmael attempting to harm or kill Isaac.

So, we can see from all these readings, that Sarah was the intented covenant holder with Abraham, from the beginning.  Abraham's marriage to Hagar was because he and his wife Sarah were struggling at the time with their faith in regards to having a child of their own.

Hagar was not of the same people as Abraham.  Noah had three sons on the ark:  Japheth, Shem and Ham.  Ham was different than his brothers, and he married outside the lineage of covenant people  because he married Egyptus, a woman descended from Cain.

The Bible affirms that Egypt was the land given to Ham:  (Israel=Jacob)

Psalm 105:23

Old Testament

23 Israel also came into Egypt; and Jacob sojourned in the land of Ham.

Moses 7:6–8

Pearl of Great Price

And again the Lord said unto me: Look; and I looked towards the north, and I beheld the people of Canaan, which dwelt in tents.

And the Lord said unto me: Prophesy; and I prophesied, saying: Behold the people of Canaan, which are numerous, shall go forth in battle array against the people of Shum, and shall slay them that they shall utterly be destroyed; and the people of Canaan shall divide themselves in the land, and the land shall be barren and unfruitful, and none other people shall dwell there but the people of Canaan;

For behold, the Lord shall curse the land with much heat, and the barrenness thereof shall go forth forever; and there was a blackness came upon all the children of Canaan, that they were despised among all people.

Note here:  "Canaan" in Moses 7 (and Abraham 1) is referring to the land given to Ham's descendants, not Israel.  Later on, the Canaanites claim-jumped and inhabited places that were supposed to belong to the descendants of Shem (Israelites). 

Abraham 1 (in the Pearl of Great Price)

21 Now this king of Egypt was a descendant from the aloins of bHam {son of Noah}, and was a partaker of the blood of the cCanaanites by birth {because of Ham's wife, Zeptah, a.k.a. Egyptus in modern printed Pearl of Great Price*}.

22 From this descent sprang all the Egyptians, and thus the blood of the aCanaanites {descendants of Cain} was preserved in the land.

23 The land of aEgypt being first discovered by a woman, who was the daughter of Ham, and the daughter of Egyptus {Zeptah*}, which in the Chaldean signifies Egypt, which signifies that which is forbidden;

* In the original handwritten manuscript by Joseph Smith, the wife of Ham was Zeptah, and their daughter was "Egyptes."  It was the daughter "Egyptes" that discovered the land we now call Egypt.  Egyptes' eldest son became the first Pharoah.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptus

24 When this woman discovered the land it was under water, who afterward settled her sons in it; and thus, from Ham, sprang that race which preserved the curse in the land.

25 Now the first agovernment of Egypt was established by Pharaoh, the eldest son of Egyptus, the daughter of Ham, and it was after the manner of the government of Ham, which was patriarchal.

26 Pharaoh, being a righteous man, established his kingdom and judged his people wisely and justly all his days, seeking earnestly to imitate that aorder established by the fathers in the first generations, in the days of the first patriarchal reign, even in the reign of Adam, and also of Noah, his father, who blessed him with the bblessings of the earth, and with the blessings of wisdom, but cursed him as pertaining to the Priesthood.

27 Now, Pharaoh being of that lineage by which he could not have the right of aPriesthood, notwithstanding the Pharaohs would fain bclaim it from Noah, through Ham, therefore my father was led away by their idolatry;

So, the first pharoah was righteous, but wanted the priesthood he didn't have the right for, and so a substitute was done.  However, within a couple of generations, they were bad, many of the people.  Abraham also explained in that chapter, that the Egyptian priest Elkenah was wicked, and that religion included human sacrifice of men, women, and even children.  Elkenah attempted to kill Abraham, but Abraham was rescued by an angel of the Lord.

Abraham also had separated himself from his father and his father's household, which was apostate.  Abraham wanted the true priesthood which had been passed down through the Fathers, from Adam.

Abraham 1: 1-4

In the land of the aChaldeans, at the residence of my fathers, I, bAbraham, saw that it was needful for me to obtain another place of cresidence;

And, finding there was greater ahappiness and peace and rest for me, I sought for the blessings of the fathers, and the right whereunto I should be ordained to administer the same; having been myself a follower of brighteousness, desiring also to be one who possessed great cknowledge, and to be a greater follower of righteousness, and to possess a greater knowledge, and to be a father of many dnations, a prince of peace, and edesiring to receive instructions, and to keep the commandments of God, I became a rightful heir, a fHigh Priest, holding the right belonging to the fathers.

It was aconferred upon me from the fathers; it came down from the fathers, from the beginning of time, yea, even from the beginning, or before the foundation of the earth, down to the present time, even the right of the bfirstborn, or the first man, who is cAdam, or first father, through the fathers unto me.

I sought for mine aappointment unto the Priesthood according to the appointment of God unto the bfathers concerning the seed.

Let's back track to Noah's sons.  Remember the story in Genesis, after the flood?  It was hot and Noah was resting in his tent.  Noah wasn't wearing much or was completely naked in his tent, asleep.  Ham walked in...

Genesis 9:20-27

20 And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:

21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.

22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.

23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father’s nakedness.

24 And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.

25 And he said, aCursed be bCanaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.

26 And he said, Blessed be the Lord God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his aservant.

27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.  This sounds like a prophecy that the Israelites and Gentiles would have some close associations, even marriage (dwelling in the tents).

Okay, so there's more to the story, but it's late and this post is long.

I will just say that it's quite likely that Ham stole the priesthood garment of Noah -- it wasn't just laughing at naked daddy, but Ham you remember, had married a lady from the non-priesthood lineage.  Canaan, Ham's son, likely got the garment later on from Ham, and also claim jumped Shem's land later on.  Ham's lineage also figured into Egyptian politics and religion.

More time passed, and a Hamitic descendant, Nimrod, became an arrogant leader, and built the Tower of Babel (predecessor to the city of Babylon), intruding on another part of Shem's land inheritance.  Nimrod was a mighty hunter.  He got the garment passed down by Canaan's descendants.  

Later on, Esau, son of Isaac and grandson of Abraham, already knew he was on shaky ground because he was wild and married Canaanite girls, tracked-down Nimrod and killed him and stole back the priesthood garment made of fabric not of this world which augmented his body's strength and made him mighty. I'm guessing Esau wanted the garment for less that completely noble reasons.

Esau was utterly exhausted and "despised" (sound familiar, despising the covenant and the family?) his birthright and sold it to Jacob for some awesome stew.  Later due to Rebecca's urging (who had the vote of confidence from Abraham that Jacob was to receive the covenantal blessings, not Esau because Esau was wild and disobedient), Jacob tricked blind daddy Isaac (who loved Esau's hunted BBQ meat dish) into giving Jacob the priesthood blessing too.  ESAU finds out after-the-fact, and utterly sees Red!

How do I know this?  Reading the account closely as well as doing mental extrapolation; also reading some extra-canonical Jewish stuff.  And inspiration.

Okay, this was all A LOT to sort though, but hopefully, you dear reader, can comprehend the ins and outs of the ancient covenant, and land.  It wasn't really about looks the way that people like to point out outer-appearance as racism.  It was always about, in God's eyes, about behavior.  Behavior, behavior.  God told the Prophet Samuel (Old Testament) that he looks on the heart while people look at outer appearance.  God also told Jeremiah that he knew Jeremiah before he was born.  God knows the future and knows the souls that inhabit bodies.  

It may have been Sarah feeling super uneasy about Hagar and Ishmael, not just straight jealousy, but God knew the future and He backed up Sarah's complaints about who would get the Eternal Covenant.   The Book of Mormon says that ultimately all people need to repent.  Just being from the Covenant lineage is not enough.  The Covenant must be lived.   The scriptures also say that ultimately the Gospel would be offered to all peoples of the earth.   We are in that day.

In looking at these accounts, it is easy to see that the current situation in the Middle East has roots of difficulty that go back centuries.  It appears that the ancient roots of discord came from people who were rebellious, jealous, and violent.  I can only imagine that a people who settled in hot, arid land would have had more difficulties than people who settled in more abundant land.  

The roots of unforgiveness and strife go back a long ways.  Peace will only occur from a people who appeal to God for help, appeal to their fellow human being for help, and are firmly committed to humility, truth, peace, honor, forgiveness, industry and charity above all else.  Distrustful backstabbing and destruction will only ruin the peace process.  Those who will not bend their will to rebuilding, cannot be part of the success.

That's my two cents cast into the pot of opinion.


Pray for the peace of Jerusalem and the Middle East.  Psalm 122:6 



Pray for worldwide repentance and peace.  Without repentance, there will not be lasting Peace.   The Lord is the Prince of Peace.  In Him we can find answers.









 

Wednesday, October 11, 2023

Zion is a GRASSROOTS movement.

In April 2019 General Conference, on Saturday,

Elder Christofferson gave a talk about Zion.  He made a statement, "We're not going to build Zion, YOU do it!"

Very shortly after he gave his talk, the Brethren scrubbed his talk away, re-recorded it, into a talk which was more general, and didn't have that most interesting statement.   Then when the print version came out, it was the general talk.   How do I know this?  Because I heard it myself, my family member heard it, and I saw another person on Facebook that commented on the same statement by Elder Christofferson, how shocked he was.

I will ask though, What did Elder Christofferson mean?  Did he mean, We've already asked you, now it's your turn?  Did he mean, they don't care to use their great wealth, and airtime asking anymore for the Saints?   To me, it's like, when you ask somebody to build Zion you not only teach them, but you open the wallet and give them a hammer, nails, and wood, and land with seeds if they can't afford it themselves.  I envision the people on land doing this, land owned by the Saints, not Saints being used as cash cows in spiritual Babylon in perpetuity!

ZION WILL PROSPER AND FLOURISH

May 7, 1831 (what did the wilderness mean in 1831? What does it mean now?)

D&C 49: 24 But before the great day of the Lord shall come, aJacob shall flourish in the wilderness, and the Lamanites shall bblossom as the rose.

25 Zion shall aflourish upon the bhills and rejoice upon the mountains, and shall be assembled together unto the place which I have appointed.


September 11, 1831:

D&C 64: 41 For, behold, I say unto you that aZion shall flourish, and the bglory of the Lord shall be upon her;

42 And she shall be an aensign unto the people, and there shall come unto her out of every bnation under heaven.

D&C 97: 18 And now, behold, if Zion do these things, she shall prosper, and spread herself and become very glorious, very great, and very terrible.


GRASSROOTS ZION!  Did you get it?  It says, spread {itself}.  It won't be just leaders.  It will mainly be the people.


Don't wait!  You know what God has said about slothful servants waiting to be commanded to do good.  He also said that you can do good that is within your heart (as long as it isn't something that breaks His commandments, because some people call evil good, and good, evil.  It has to line up with God's values).  


Zion  -- From the LDS Scriptures Index

The word Zion is used repeatedly in all the standard works of the Church and is defined in latter-day revelation as “the pure in heart” (D&C 97:21). Other usages of Zion have to do with a geographical location. For example, Enoch built a city that was called Zion (Moses 7:18–19); Solomon built his temple on Mount Zion (1 Kgs. 8:1; see also 2 Sam. 5:6–7); and Jackson County, Missouri, is called Zion in many of the revelations in the D&C, such as 58:49–50; 62:4; 63:48; 72:13; 84:76; 104:47. The city of New Jerusalem, to be built in Jackson County, Missouri, is to be called Zion (D&C 45:66–67). The revelations also speak of “the cause of Zion” (D&C 6:6; 11:6). In a wider sense all of North and South America are Zion (HC 6:318–19). For further references see 1 Chr. 11:5; Ps. 2:6; 99:2; 102:16; Isa. 1:27; 2:3; 4:3–5; 33:20; 52:1–8; 59:20; Jer. 3:14; 31:6; Joel 2; Amos 6:1; Obad. 1:17, 21; Heb. 12:22–24; Rev. 14:1–5; and many others. (In the New Testament, Zion is spelled Sion.)


The Righteous Rejoice, the Wicked Mourn

D&C 97: 21 Therefore, verily, thus saith the Lord, let Zion rejoice, for this is Zion the pure in heart; therefore, let Zion rejoice, while all the wicked shall mourn.

When I read this scripture, I am reminded of several others -- starting with the Parable of the Ten Virgins from Matthew 25.  It says that the Wise Virgins (wise people of the Believers) will be taken into the Wedding Feast, while the Foolish Virgins will be shut out.  It's because there was a distinction between the Wise and the Foolish.

Matthew 25: 

10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.

12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.

13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.

They had not prepared in the Ways in which they could've done.

I know this is kind of blending two topics, but I see how the Parable fits with the idea of Zion.

D&C 97 is a short but powerful chapter about Zion.  Every Latter Saint should read it and then "tell a friend."  Tell-a-phone a friend.  Or Email a Friend.  Or Facetime a friend.  Or real life, Face-to-Face a friend being the best.  Those "friends" can actually be starting with your family.  

  • Every man who has been warned should warn his  neighbor, D&C 88:81.

Why does it say "warn?"  Because the message about Zion also talks about the calamities; it is saying to communicate to your neighbor!

D&C 45:68 And it shall come to pass among the wicked, that every man that will not take his sword against his aneighbor must needs flee unto bZion for safety.

D&C 45: 31 And there shall be men standing in that ageneration, that shall not pass until they shall see an overflowing bscourge; for a desolating csickness shall cover the land.

32 But my disciples shall astand in holy places, and shall not be moved; but among the wicked, men shall lift up their voices and bcurse God and die.

33 And there shall be aearthquakes also in divers places, and many desolations; yet men will harden their hearts against me, and they will take up the bsword, one against another, and they will kill one another.


If you have unbelieving neighbors, you could write them a letter (and make copies), something like this:

Dear Neighbor,

Our Country has enemies on the outside, and enemies on the inside.  Our world is being rocked by violence.  Our relative peace and somewhat prosperity will not last forever under these circumstances.  I can feel the winds of change.

I urge all of you to do your best at improving your life -- the things that matter the most.

Make amends with those you need to make amends with.

Be a good example to others.   Smile or wave more often.   Be wise as a serpent (aware of evil) but harmless as a dove (still nice to others).   

The world may be crazy but look for the good too and enjoy some moments here and there.

Support good people in our communities, state, and nation.  Keep your head (mind and heart) level.

Grow a garden (even if it's just one or two potting containers) every year.  Store extras of food, water, and supplies as you can.  American supplies and manufacturing could end on a dime.  Be as self reliant as you can.  Get out of debt if you can (or be working on it).  If you invest, include physical silver or gold. 

Find out who you can rely on.

Get right with your Creator.

Help those less fortunate than yourself if you can.  If you are an employer, pay your people a liveable, fair wage. 

If you yourself need help, hopefully providence will find you.   Pray and hope, or make a phone call.

****

And then if you wish, you can share something more direct from the Gospel.

Thursday, October 5, 2023

The Jewish Talent - Building Cooperative Communities




Aerial View of Kibbutz Nir David

Since the early part of the Twentieth Century, the Jews in Israel have built cooperative communities.  They have evolved over time.  Nevertheless, it is still worthwhile to have a look at what they have done.  These communities (Kibbutzes or Moshavs) are usually agricultural and rural, but sometimes they have their own industries.  Other times they are suburban or a few, urban.   They are cooperative to some degree or another.  

They have over 200, maybe up to 400 or so, Kibbutzes or Moshavs in Israel.

Here's a link to a list of some of those communities:

Relaxing Walker channel on YouTube, has videos about Kibbutzes and Moshavs (as well as other places in Israel).  Here are two links to the search function on his channel:
    Relaxing WALKER - YouTube  Kibbutz
    Relaxing WALKER - YouTube  Moshav 

On my YouTube channel, which as of this writing I only have Playlists of other people's videos, I have several videos about peoples' Kibbutz experiences.  I don't subscribe to everything there.  It's just a view to see how others do things.  This stimulates thoughts about how one would do things the same or differently.

Kibbutz Life (Israeli communal living)
Gathering Zion's People - Playlist 9 videos:

Enjoy!

POST SCRIPT:

I wrote this just days before the attack on Israel, some places which were the kibbutzim (plural of kibbutz) closest to the Gaza Strip.  Regardless of that great tragedy, I still believe in the potential power of cooperative living.  Their problem stemmed from security issues and the evil residing in the hearts of the Hamas terrorists.